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1 out of 19 required modules missing:

* RAxML/8.2.13-gompi-2023b-avx2 (RAxML-8.2.13-gompi-2023b-avx2.eb)

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boegel commented Sep 18, 2025

bot: build repo:eessi.io-2023.06-software instance:eessi-bot-mc-aws for:arch=x86_64/amd/zen2
bot: build repo:eessi.io-2023.06-software instance:eessi-bot-jsc for:arch=aarch64/nvidia/grace

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error: easystacks/software.eessi.io/2023.06/eessi-2023.06-eb-5.1.1-2023b.yml: patch does not apply

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boegel commented Sep 18, 2025

@PetrKralCZ please fix the merge conflict

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bot: build repo:eessi.io-2023.06-software instance:eessi-bot-mc-aws for:arch=x86_64/amd/zen2
bot: build repo:eessi.io-2023.06-software instance:eessi-bot-jsc for:arch=aarch64/nvidia/grace

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Building on: amd-zen2
Building for: x86_64/amd/zen2
Job dir: /project/def-users/SHARED/jobs/2025.09/pr_1196/90779

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[ OK ] ( 1/10) EESSI_LAMMPS_lj %device_type=cpu %module_name=LAMMPS/29Aug2024-foss-2023b-kokkos %scale=1_node /aeb2d9df @BotBuildTests:x86_64_amd_zen2+default
P: perf: 264.469 timesteps/s (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] ( 2/10) EESSI_LAMMPS_lj %device_type=cpu %module_name=LAMMPS/2Aug2023_update2-foss-2023a-kokkos %scale=1_node /04ff9ece @BotBuildTests:x86_64_amd_zen2+default
P: perf: 446.224 timesteps/s (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] ( 3/10) EESSI_OSU_coll %benchmark_info=mpi.collective.osu_allreduce %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.2-gompi-2023b %scale=1_node %device_type=cpu /775175bf @BotBuildTests:x86_64_amd_zen2+default
P: latency: 7.32 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] ( 4/10) EESSI_OSU_coll %benchmark_info=mpi.collective.osu_allreduce %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.1-1-gompi-2023a %scale=1_node %device_type=cpu /52707c40 @BotBuildTests:x86_64_amd_zen2+default
P: latency: 1.89 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] ( 5/10) EESSI_OSU_coll %benchmark_info=mpi.collective.osu_alltoall %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.2-gompi-2023b %scale=1_node %device_type=cpu /b1aacda9 @BotBuildTests:x86_64_amd_zen2+default
P: latency: 4.02 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] ( 6/10) EESSI_OSU_coll %benchmark_info=mpi.collective.osu_alltoall %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.1-1-gompi-2023a %scale=1_node %device_type=cpu /c6bad193 @BotBuildTests:x86_64_amd_zen2+default
P: latency: 4.23 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] ( 7/10) EESSI_OSU_pt2pt_CPU %benchmark_info=mpi.pt2pt.osu_latency %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.2-gompi-2023b %scale=1_node /15cad6c4 @BotBuildTests:x86_64_amd_zen2+default
P: latency: 0.56 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] ( 8/10) EESSI_OSU_pt2pt_CPU %benchmark_info=mpi.pt2pt.osu_latency %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.1-1-gompi-2023a %scale=1_node /6672deda @BotBuildTests:x86_64_amd_zen2+default
P: latency: 0.54 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] ( 9/10) EESSI_OSU_pt2pt_CPU %benchmark_info=mpi.pt2pt.osu_bw %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.2-gompi-2023b %scale=1_node /2a9a47b1 @BotBuildTests:x86_64_amd_zen2+default
P: bandwidth: 7267.66 MB/s (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (10/10) EESSI_OSU_pt2pt_CPU %benchmark_info=mpi.pt2pt.osu_bw %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.1-1-gompi-2023a %scale=1_node /1b24ab8e @BotBuildTests:x86_64_amd_zen2+default
P: bandwidth: 7288.03 MB/s (r:0, l:None, u:None)
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Building on: nvidia-grace
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[ SKIP ] ( 8/26) Skipping GPU test : only 1 GPU available for this test case
[ OK ] ( 9/26) EESSI_LAMMPS_lj %device_type=cpu %module_name=LAMMPS/29Aug2024-foss-2023b-kokkos %scale=1_node /aeb2d9df @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: perf: 1514.171 timesteps/s (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (10/26) EESSI_LAMMPS_lj %device_type=cpu %module_name=LAMMPS/2Aug2023_update2-foss-2023a-kokkos %scale=1_node /04ff9ece @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: perf: 1523.207 timesteps/s (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (11/26) EESSI_OSU_coll %benchmark_info=mpi.collective.osu_allreduce %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.2-gompi-2023b %scale=1_node %device_type=cpu /775175bf @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: latency: 4.81 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (12/26) EESSI_OSU_coll %benchmark_info=mpi.collective.osu_allreduce %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.1-1-gompi-2023a %scale=1_node %device_type=cpu /52707c40 @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: latency: 5.14 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (13/26) EESSI_OSU_coll %benchmark_info=mpi.collective.osu_allreduce %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.5-gompi-2023b-CUDA-12.4.0 %scale=1_node %device_type=cpu /95ac9526 @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: latency: 5.12 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (14/26) EESSI_OSU_coll %benchmark_info=mpi.collective.osu_allreduce %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.2-gompi-2023a-CUDA-12.1.1 %scale=1_node %device_type=cpu /1cff5d41 @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: latency: 5.22 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (15/26) EESSI_OSU_coll %benchmark_info=mpi.collective.osu_alltoall %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.2-gompi-2023b %scale=1_node %device_type=cpu /b1aacda9 @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: latency: 7.06 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (16/26) EESSI_OSU_coll %benchmark_info=mpi.collective.osu_alltoall %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.1-1-gompi-2023a %scale=1_node %device_type=cpu /c6bad193 @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: latency: 7.09 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (17/26) EESSI_OSU_coll %benchmark_info=mpi.collective.osu_alltoall %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.5-gompi-2023b-CUDA-12.4.0 %scale=1_node %device_type=cpu /0edb8a95 @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: latency: 8.72 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (18/26) EESSI_OSU_coll %benchmark_info=mpi.collective.osu_alltoall %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.2-gompi-2023a-CUDA-12.1.1 %scale=1_node %device_type=cpu /b2ab2213 @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: latency: 8.42 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (19/26) EESSI_OSU_pt2pt_CPU %benchmark_info=mpi.pt2pt.osu_latency %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.2-gompi-2023b %scale=1_node /15cad6c4 @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: latency: 0.51 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (20/26) EESSI_OSU_pt2pt_CPU %benchmark_info=mpi.pt2pt.osu_latency %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.1-1-gompi-2023a %scale=1_node /6672deda @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: latency: 0.49 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (21/26) EESSI_OSU_pt2pt_CPU %benchmark_info=mpi.pt2pt.osu_latency %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.5-gompi-2023b-CUDA-12.4.0 %scale=1_node /8ec94746 @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: latency: 0.5 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (22/26) EESSI_OSU_pt2pt_CPU %benchmark_info=mpi.pt2pt.osu_latency %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.2-gompi-2023a-CUDA-12.1.1 %scale=1_node /1a3a497b @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: latency: 0.51 us (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (23/26) EESSI_OSU_pt2pt_CPU %benchmark_info=mpi.pt2pt.osu_bw %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.2-gompi-2023b %scale=1_node /2a9a47b1 @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: bandwidth: 42802.09 MB/s (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (24/26) EESSI_OSU_pt2pt_CPU %benchmark_info=mpi.pt2pt.osu_bw %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.1-1-gompi-2023a %scale=1_node /1b24ab8e @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: bandwidth: 40967.13 MB/s (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (25/26) EESSI_OSU_pt2pt_CPU %benchmark_info=mpi.pt2pt.osu_bw %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.5-gompi-2023b-CUDA-12.4.0 %scale=1_node /c9ca6dc1 @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: bandwidth: 41335.12 MB/s (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ OK ] (26/26) EESSI_OSU_pt2pt_CPU %benchmark_info=mpi.pt2pt.osu_bw %module_name=OSU-Micro-Benchmarks/7.2-gompi-2023a-CUDA-12.1.1 %scale=1_node /17289b2f @BotBuildTests:aarch64_nvidia_grace+default
P: bandwidth: 42276.89 MB/s (r:0, l:None, u:None)
[ PASSED ] Ran 18/26 test case(s) from 26 check(s) (0 failure(s), 8 skipped, 0 aborted)
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This needs special attention for Arm it seems:

== 2025-09-18 15:05:12,506 run.py:502 INFO Running shell command 'make  -j 16 -f Makefile.AVX2.gcc CC="$CC" && rm *.o && make -j 16 -f Makefile.AVX2.PTHREADS.gcc CC="$CC" && rm *.o && make -j 16 -f Makefile.AVX2.HYBRID.gcc CC="$CC"' in /tmp/eessibot/easybuild/build/RAxML/8.2.13/gompi-2023b-avx2/standard-RAxML-8.2.13
== 2025-09-18 15:05:16,218 run.py:613 INFO Output of 'make ...' shell command (stdout + stderr):
rm -f *.o raxmlHPC-AVX2
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o axml.o axml.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o optimizeModel.o optimizeModel.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o multiple.o multiple.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o searchAlgo.o searchAlgo.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o topologies.o topologies.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o parsePartitions.o parsePartitions.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o treeIO.o treeIO.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o models.o models.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o bipartitionList.o bipartitionList.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o rapidBootstrap.o rapidBootstrap.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o evaluatePartialGenericSpecial.o evaluatePartialGenericSpecial.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o evaluateGenericSpecial.o evaluateGenericSpecial.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o newviewGenericSpecial.o newviewGenericSpecial.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o makenewzGenericSpecial.o makenewzGenericSpecial.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX    -c -o classify.o classify.c
mpicc -D__SIM_SSE3 -msse3 -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -D__AVX  -mavx -c -o fastDNAparsimony.o fastDNAparsimony.c
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’
gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-msse3’

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This is not going to work on systems that don't have AVX2, you need to create a variant of https://github.com/easybuilders/easybuild-easyconfigs/blob/develop/easybuild/easyconfigs/r/RAxML/RAxML-8.2.13-gompi-2023a-standard.eb with a newer toolchain

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Actually, this is a case where I think we should diverge from the "same modules everywhere" goal.

The AVX2 variant of RAxML is definitely worth installing for x86_64 CPUs, but clearly doesn't make any sense for aarch64.

So we should install "fake" modules for the latter, and get them to produce a meaningful error to explain why that installation is not available on aarch64 targets?

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I don't think we need to make this exception, we need a better easyconfig. For example, https://github.com/stamatak/standard-RAxML/blob/master/Makefile.HYBRID.gcc has the mechanism to support both x86 and Arm, we should really be using that.

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PR for this particular case in easybuilders/easybuild-easyconfigs#23975

RAxML does seem to have some intrinsics available, but the specific code targeted Haswell and hasn't been touched in 10 years, I think a native CPU compilation is a reasonable option

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laraPPr commented Sep 23, 2025

This should be closed RAxML was deployed with this pr #1032

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boegel commented Sep 23, 2025

This is 2023b toolchain, we don't have this installed yet in EESSI 2023.06

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laraPPr commented Sep 23, 2025

Discussion on how to handle this and similar cases see https://gitlab.com/eessi/support/-/issues/196

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ocaisa commented Oct 1, 2025

PR opened to make a more universal version of RAxML: easybuilders/easybuild-easyconfigs#23975

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