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Adds attn_implementation: aiter, dispatching attention to AMD's aiter (AI Tensor Engine for ROCm https://github.com/ROCm/aiter) FMHA-v3 kernels as an alternative to flash-attn 2.8.3's composable-kernel build.

The registered name is veomni_flash_attention_aiter_with_sp, and it has to contain "flash": transformers' is_flash_attention_requested() dispatches on a plain "flash" in impl substring test, and a name without it sends the Omni audio/vision encoders down a non-varlen split path that size-mismatches under sequence parallelism.

Validated on 8xMI308X / ROCm 7.14 against flash_attention_2 with the same seed and data. Wan2.1-1.3B DiT: 1.28x faster (5.42 -> 4.25 s/step), rising to 1.36x at real-480P latent size, per-step |delta| < 0.01 over 30 steps. Qwen3-Omni-MoE-30B: 1.03x on the default config, where packing makes attention only 7% of the step, and 1.13x -> 1.47x from 8k to 64k unpacked; max |delta| = 0.03 over 25 steps, the same as the FA2-vs-FA2 baseline. Full numbers in docs/hardware_support/rocm/README.md.

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    • Added AITER attention support for AMD ROCm, including sequence-parallel and variable-length attention in supported models.
    • Added aiter as an attention backend selection option.
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    • Documented ROCm and package requirements, configuration, performance comparisons, and supported options.
    • Clarified limitations: attention sinks and dense-path softcap are unsupported; softcap with gradients and window sizes other than two or three values are rejected.
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    • Added coverage for AITER registration, dispatch, and supported attention behaviors.

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Baseline: merge base ea1e68da3603, which is current main — ahead 1 / behind 0, mergeable: true. I also checked your other open PR, #1040, which touches the same Wan modeling file: it applies cleanly on top of this one, so the two do not conflict. ruff verified against a clean-main baseline: All checks passed!, 609 → 611 files already formatted. Title matches check_pr_title.yml.

1. Does it solve a real problem? Yes. ROCm users currently get flash-attn 2.8.3's composable-kernel build with no native alternative, and the measured numbers (1.28× on Wan at the default latent size, up to 1.47× on Qwen3-Omni at 64k, with parity at the FA2-vs-FA2 noise floor) make the case well. The framing of why the speedup is config-dependent — attention's share of step time, and packing making it small in the default Qwen run — is unusually honest and saves reviewers from misreading the 1.03× number.

I verified the two non-obvious mechanisms this design rests on, both in the pinned transformers 5.9.0:

  • return_lse=torch.is_grad_enabled() is safe. Both places that consume the kernel output guard with isinstance(out, tuple) — modeling_flash_attention_utils.py:796-797 (varlen) and :804-805 (dense) — so the bare-tensor return under no_grad is handled. Your docstring's claim is accurate.
  • The docstring is right that only the varlen shim's signature matters for kwarg selection. lazy_import_flash_attention builds the processor with _lazy_define_process_function(_flash_varlen_fn) (:251) and then uses it for the dense path too (:803). That is precisely why declaring softcap on the dense shim and raising is the correct design — without it, transformers would pass softcap to the dense function and **ignored would swallow it.

That same mechanism, though, is where I found the one substantive problem: attention sinks are silently dropped (inline, and the main reason for the verdict below).

2. Comments / docs / tests: strong, with one test gap. The docs work here is genuinely thorough — five doc files updated consistently, the design tables, the arguments reference, and real measured numbers in the ROCm page. Two things I would tighten: the ROCm page asserts aiter ships in the image but neither the component-version table nor docker/rocm/Dockerfile.ROCm7.14 mentions it (inline), and the new test's fake aiter always returns a 2-tuple, so the return_lse=False bare-tensor branch — i.e. the eval / no_grad path — is never exercised (inline).

On CI coverage, a genuine positive worth stating because it is usually the opposite in this repo: tests/ops is one of only two directories run wholesale (gpu_unit_tests.yml:173), so tests/ops/test_aiter_attention.py is picked up automatically with no workflow edit, and the fake-module approach means it runs on the CUDA runners. Also correct: adding the name to VARLEN_ATTENTION_TYPES needs no patchgen regeneration, because the generated Omni files import that constant at runtime (patched_modeling_qwen3_omni_moe_gpu.py:113) rather than inlining its values.

3. Tidy and conflict-free: yes. The new backend slots into the existing seams rather than adding new ones, adding both aiter and veomni_flash_attention_aiter_with_sp to build_foundation_model's Literal exactly mirrors the FA2/3/4 pattern, and the naming rationale in the PR body ("flash" in impl in is_flash_attention_requested()) is the kind of thing that would otherwise be lost. One thing I checked and can confirm is fine: naming the module veomni/ops/kernels/attention/aiter.py while it does import aiter is safe, since Python 3 absolute imports resolve that to the top-level package, not to itself.

Overall: needs changes. The sink kwarg being dropped without an error is the one thing I would not merge as-is, because it fails in the same silent way the PR explicitly refuses to fail for softcap. Everything else is refinement, and the feature itself looks well built and well measured.

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return_lse=torch.is_grad_enabled(),
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def flash_attn_varlen_func(

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Attention sinks are silently dropped on this backend. Because supports_mapping is introspected from this signature (modeling_flash_attention_utils.py:251), and neither s_aux nor learnable_sink is declared here, transformers skips the sink entirely. I measured it with a stand-in function carrying exactly your declared parameter names:

s_aux: False
learnable_sink: False

and the forwarding logic is all-or-nothing:

if ((legacy_sink_param := supports_mapping["s_aux"]) or supports_mapping["learnable_sink"]) and s_aux is not None:

(modeling_flash_attention_utils.py:642-646). With both False the branch is skipped, no exception is raised, and attention is computed without the sink logits. Two in-tree models pass them: gpt_oss (gpt_oss_gpu_patch_gen_config.py:35, s_aux=self.sinks) and deepseek_v4 (deepseek_v4_gpu_patch_gen_config.py:831).

This is the same hazard class you deliberately refuse for softcap, so I think it deserves the same treatment. Options, roughly in order of preference:

  1. If aiter's third window_size slot really is the same feature, wire it through and say so — though I suspect it is a sink token count rather than gpt-oss's learnable per-head sink logit, in which case it is not a substitute.
  2. Declare s_aux (and/or learnable_sink) here and raise a ValueError like the dense softcap case, so a user selecting aiter for a sink model gets told rather than getting quietly different maths.
  3. At a minimum, add it to the ROCm page's known-limitations list. I would not stop at this option, since the models involved are exactly the ones a ROCm user might reach for.

Comment thread veomni/ops/kernels/attention/aiter.py Outdated
ws = tuple(window_size)
if len(ws) == 2:
return (ws[0], ws[1], 0)
return ws

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A length other than 2 or 3 falls through unchanged into the kernel. Given that the whole point of this helper is that aiter and flash-attn disagree on the tuple width, an explicit raise ValueError(f"unexpected window_size {window_size!r}") for len(ws) not in (2, 3) costs one line and turns a confusing kernel-level failure into a clear one. The parametrised test already covers None, 2-tuple and 3-tuple, so a fourth case would come almost free.

Comment thread veomni/ops/kernels/attention/aiter.py Outdated
window_size=(-1, -1),
softcap: float = 0.0,
deterministic: bool = False,
return_attn_probs: bool = False,

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Minor consistency point: return_attn_probs is declared and then dropped, and **ignored swallows anything else — both silent, in a shim whose stated principle is to reject rather than silently ignore.

In practice the exposure is small, because _process_flash_attention_kwargs only forwards kwargs it finds in this signature, so **ignored is close to dead code today. That is actually the argument for removing it: without the catch-all, any kwarg a future transformers version starts forwarding becomes a loud TypeError at the boundary instead of a silent behaviour change, which is the failure mode you want here. If you would rather keep it for safety, a one-line comment saying what it is defending against would do.

Comment thread veomni/ops/kernels/attention/flash.py Outdated
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elif implementation == "veomni_flash_attention_aiter_with_sp":
try:
import aiter # noqa: F401

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Two things worth adding around this guard.

A version floor. The shim encodes three version-specific facts about aiter's API (3-tuple window_size, logits_soft_cap naming on varlen, the return_lse assertion). Nothing anywhere pins a minimum aiter: it is in no extra and not in uv.lock, and docker/rocm/Dockerfile.ROCm7.14 does not install it — it inherits whatever rocm/primus:v26.4 happens to ship. So an image refresh that moves aiter's API breaks this silently or with a confusing TypeError. Checking importlib.metadata.version("aiter") against a known-good floor right here, and mentioning that floor in the ROCm doc, would make the coupling explicit.

Failure timing. As written, attn_implementation: aiter on a CUDA host fails at the first attention forward rather than at startup. That matches how FA4 behaves today, so I am not asking you to diverge — but the repo already has the ROCm probe idiom (torch.version.hip is not None, used at veomni/ops/kernels/deepseek_v4/__init__.py:33 and precision_aligned_ops.py:36), so a check in OpsImplementationConfig.__post_init__ or build_foundation_model would be cheap and would fail fast. The same argument applies to the dense-path softcap rejection: whether a model uses softcap is knowable at build time, and raising then beats raising several minutes into a run.

Comment thread docs/hardware_support/rocm/README.md Outdated
attn_implementation: aiter
```

`aiter` ships in the pre-built image.

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This is the sentence the whole feature depends on, and it is currently unverifiable from the repo: the component-version table above (torch / torchvision / triton / flash-attn / transformers / diffusers / python) does not list aiter, and docker/rocm/Dockerfile.ROCm7.14 never installs it — it comes from the rocm/primus:v26.4 base, if at all. Please add an aiter row with the version you validated on. That is what lets a user with a different image tell whether their aiter is compatible with the calling convention the shim assumes, and it is the natural place to state the floor mentioned in my comment on flash.py.

use_flash_attention = self.attn_implementation in {
"flash_attention_2",
"veomni_flash_attention_2_with_sp",
"veomni_flash_attention_aiter_with_sp",

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This hand-maintained set now duplicates VARLEN_ATTENTION_TYPES in veomni/models/transformers/attention_utils.py, which you also had to extend in this PR — exactly the kind of double edit a shared constant is meant to prevent. The predicate is the same in both places ("does this backend take cu_seq_lens").

One caveat if you switch: VARLEN_ATTENTION_TYPES also contains the FA3 and FA4 names, which this set deliberately (or accidentally) omits, so importing it would additionally route Wan's FA3/FA4 runs down the varlen path. If that is desirable, this is a small improvement on top; if the narrower list is intentional, a comment saying why Wan keeps its own would stop the next person from "fixing" it.

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"""Register a fake ``aiter`` module and return the recorded call kwargs."""
calls = {}

def flash_attn_func(q, k, v, **kwargs):

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The fakes always return a 2-tuple, so the branch the docstring in aiter.py calls out — "without the log-sum-exp aiter returns a bare tensor rather than an (out, lse, ...) tuple" — is never exercised, even though test_lse_is_not_requested_without_autograd sets up exactly the conditions for it. That is the eval / no_grad path, so it is worth covering.

Suggestion: have the fakes return torch.zeros_like(q) when kwargs.get("return_lse") is falsy and the tuple otherwise, then add a case that drives veomni_flash.flash_attention_forward under torch.no_grad() and asserts the output shape. That pins the isinstance(out, tuple) contract you are relying on from transformers (modeling_flash_attention_utils.py:796-797, 804-805), so a future transformers change there fails a test instead of failing an eval run.

SkyHeroesS added a commit to SkyHeroesS/VeOmni that referenced this pull request Aug 14, 2026
Review follow-up on ByteDance-Seed#1041. The shim's stated principle is to fail loudly rather
than silently ignore an argument, and three places did not hold to it.

Attention sinks were dropped silently. Transformers picks which optional kwargs
to forward by introspecting the shim's signature, and its sink forwarding is
all-or-nothing: with neither `s_aux` nor `learnable_sink` declared it skips them
without raising, and attention is computed without the sink logits. DeepSeek-V4
passes `s_aux` unconditionally and declares no
`_compatible_flash_implementations` whitelist, so selecting `aiter` for it
changed the maths with no warning. Both names are now declared and rejected.
aiter's kernels do take a `sink_ptr`, so real support is possible later; it is
rejected rather than wired through because the semantics have not been checked
against the eager reference. gpt_oss is unaffected: its whitelist already
excludes aiter. `flash_attention_2` drops sinks too, since flash-attn 2.8.3 has
no sink argument either, so this is a pre-existing gap made loud.

`**ignored` and an unused `return_attn_probs` are gone. Every kwarg Transformers
can forward is now declared and either passed on or rejected, so one it starts
forwarding in a future release surfaces as a `TypeError` at this boundary instead
of changing behaviour quietly. Verified against both the pinned transformers
5.9.0 and the 5.12.1 in the ROCm image that the forwarded key set is covered.

`aiter_window_size` raises on a width other than 2 or 3 rather than passing the
tuple through to the kernel, since disagreeing tuple widths are the reason the
helper exists.

Also fail at model-build time when aiter is importable but has no flash entry
points. aiter gates its CK/HIP ops on being able to query the GPU architecture,
so on a non-ROCm host, or in a container started without `--device /dev/kfd`, it
imports fine and exports only Triton ops. The previous guard caught only
`ImportError`, leaving an `AttributeError` to surface from inside the first
attention forward.

Tests cover the sink rejection on both paths, the window-width rejection, the
`no_grad` bare-tensor return that Transformers has to unwrap, the missing-kernel
guard, and the `supports_mapping` Transformers derives from the varlen signature
— that mapping is the real contract here, so pinning it means a signature change
cannot quietly stop a kwarg from being forwarded.

The ROCm page gains the `aiter` row the component table was missing, with the
version validated by building `docker/rocm/Dockerfile.ROCm7.14`; the distribution
is named `amd_aiter`, so `importlib.metadata.version("aiter")` does not resolve.
Wan's `use_flash_attention` set keeps its own narrower membership rather than
importing `VARLEN_ATTENTION_TYPES`, which also lists FA3/FA4; a comment now says
why so the next reader does not "fix" it.
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VeOmni adds ROCm AITER attention support through dense and variable-length wrappers. Configuration, dispatch, sequence-parallel registries, model integration, tests, and documentation now recognize the AITER backend.

Changes: AITER attention backend

Layer / File(s) Summary
AITER compatibility adapter
veomni/ops/kernels/attention/aiter.py
Adds window-size conversion, validation for unsupported options, checks for required AITER functions, and dense and variable-length wrappers.
Backend loading and model wiring
veomni/arguments/arguments_types.py, veomni/ops/kernels/attention/flash.py, veomni/ops/kernels/attention/__init__.py, veomni/models/auto.py, veomni/models/transformers/attention_utils.py, veomni/models/diffusers/.../modeling_wan_transformer.py
Adds AITER configuration and SP-aware rewriting. The flash loader, fused dispatch, sequence-parallel registry, and Wan backend allowlist recognize the implementation.
Attention contract and adapter validation
tests/ops/test_aiter_attention.py, tests/ops/test_flash_attention_contract.py, tests/ops/test_fused_attention_contract.py
Tests registration, dispatch, argument conversion, LSE behavior, output handling, unsupported options, and missing AITER entry points.
AITER configuration and behavior documentation
docs/design/kernel_selection.md, docs/hardware_support/rocm/README.md, docs/transformers_v5/*, docs/usage/arguments.md
Documents AITER selection, adapter behavior, ROCm requirements, reported measurements, package verification, and limitations.

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sequenceDiagram
  participant UserConfig
  participant VeOmniConfig
  participant AttentionDispatcher
  participant AITERAdapter
  participant AITER
  UserConfig->>VeOmniConfig: select aiter
  VeOmniConfig->>AttentionDispatcher: rewrite to SP-aware implementation
  AttentionDispatcher->>AITERAdapter: dispatch dense or varlen attention
  AITERAdapter->>AITER: call flash attention with translated arguments
  AITER-->>AttentionDispatcher: return attention output and optional LSE
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Model loading with an explicit aiter override may not select the requested backend. Fix that public entry path before merging, or explicitly accept the limitation.

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The normal AITER configuration uses the sequence-parallel adapter and rejects unsupported kernel features. A newly accepted direct model-loading option can bypass that routing, creating a risk of failed or inconsistent distributed execution. No exploitable security path was established.

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  • Medium · architecture · inferred: The newly accepted raw “aiter” model-loading override is not rewritten to the registered, sequence-parallel AITER name. With a pre-installed ops configuration, it can reach model loading without VeOmni’s adapter identity or varlen classification, risking failure or incorrect distributed-path selection. The normal configuration route does perform the rewrite.
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  • inferred — A backend-selection error can affect model execution across participating sequence-parallel GPU ranks. The inspected entrypoint is a model-building argument, not evidence of an independently reachable network or tenant-controlled input.

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  • observed — The normal configuration rewrite reaches registered dispatch and adapter guards. A raw direct override does not receive that rewrite, so those controls cannot be assumed to apply to it; no attacker-controlled route to the override was established.

Resilience and Maintainability Implications

  • observed — The canonical kernel-loading path checks both the package import and the required AITER functions, giving explicit errors when the ROCm-backed implementation is unavailable.

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  • proposed — Resolve or reject raw AITER overrides before model loading so every accepted AITER choice has the same registered identity and adapter controls.
  • proposed — Record and validate the AITER version and provenance in the ROCm image used for deployment, since VeOmni does not pin its image-supplied native kernel package.
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In `@docs/design/kernel_selection.md`:
- Around line 132-135: Document AITER’s rejection of unsupported sliding_window
values in both references: add the window-width restriction beside the existing
softcap limitation in docs/design/kernel_selection.md at lines 132-135, and add
the same restriction under ROCm known limitations in
docs/hardware_support/rocm/README.md at lines 156-162.

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| Field | Available values | Notes |
|-------|------------------|-------|
| `attn_implementation` | `eager`, `sdpa`, `flash_attention_2`, `flash_attention_3`, `flash_attention_4`, `native-sparse` | VeOmni rewrites FA2/3/4 to SP-aware variants under `MODELING_BACKEND=veomni` |
| `attn_implementation` | `eager`, `sdpa`, `flash_attention_2`, `flash_attention_3`, `flash_attention_4`, `flex_attention`, `aiter`, `native-sparse` | VeOmni rewrites FA2/3/4, Flex and aiter to SP-aware variants under `MODELING_BACKEND=veomni`. `aiter` is ROCm-only. |

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Update the OpsImplementationConfig code sample.

The sample at Lines 265-269 still omits flex_attention and aiter, while this table lists both as supported values. Keep the sample and table consistent so users do not treat the new values as invalid.

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In `@docs/design/unified_kernel_registry.md` at line 292, Update the
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- FA4 (`veomni_flash_attention_4_with_sp`) and aiter
(`veomni_flash_attention_aiter_with_sp`) have no such branch in
`_lazy_imports` and always fall through to the hub-kernel path. The
adapter is the **critical** component that makes those two usable.
- FA4 requires the `flash-attn-cute` package (`flash_attn.cute`), shipped
in the `gpu` extra; `uv sync --extra gpu` source-builds it.
- aiter requires AMD ROCm and the `aiter` package, which is not in any extra —
it ships in the ROCm image. See `docs/hardware_support/rocm/README.md`.

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Add AITER to the expected runtime examples.

The expected behavior section lists only the FA2 and FA4 _lazy_imports calls. Add _lazy_imports("veomni_flash_attention_aiter_with_sp") because AITER also falls through to the hub-kernel path and requires this adapter.

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In `@docs/transformers_v5/veomni_flash_attention_kernel_adapter.md` around lines
83 - 90, Add _lazy_imports("veomni_flash_attention_aiter_with_sp") to the
expected runtime examples alongside the existing FA2 and FA4 calls, preserving
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max_seqlen_k=max_seqlen_k,
dropout_p=dropout_p,
softmax_scale=softmax_scale,
logits_soft_cap=float(softcap) if softcap else 0.0,

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[P1] Could we reject nonzero softcap during training? In the documented AITER revision, forward applies logits_soft_cap, but backward neither saves nor receives it, producing incorrect gradients. Please add a forward/backward parity test before enabling this. Upstream implementation.

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Confirmed on gfx942: the forward is correct, but the backward drops softcap (there's no _logits CK backward kernel), so gradients are wrong. Fixed in 9ce19cc: softcap now raises under autograd and is still allowed for inference.

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raise ValueError(
"attn_implementation='aiter' does not support attention sinks yet (the model passed "
"s_aux/learnable_sink). Sink logits would be silently ignored, changing the attention "
"maths. Use attn_implementation='flash_attention_2' or 'eager' for sink models such as "

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[P2] Could we recommend only eager here? As the ROCm docs note, FA2 2.8.3 silently drops attention sinks, so following this fallback suggestion would change the model's attention semantics.

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Agreed, flash-attn 2.8.3 also drops sinks silently. Fixed in 9ce19cc: the error now recommends only eager.

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`aiter` comes from the base image rather than being installed by the Dockerfile, so VeOmni does not
pin it. The distribution is named `amd_aiter`, not `aiter`:

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Could we migrate the ROCm dependencies to a dedicated rocm extra (uv sync --extra rocm) instead of relying on the preinstalled image environment? What currently blocks this, and could we explicitly pin AITER and the ROCm stack there?

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Agreed. I'll do it in a separate PR: ROCm torch comes from a custom index and uv.lock currently resolves CUDA wheels, so it's a dependency-management change and out of scope here. I'll link it once it's open.

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Support rocm uv extra on #1269

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| triton | `3.7.0+gitb4e20bbe.rocm7.14.0a20260608` |
| flash-attn | `2.8.3` |
| aiter | `0.1.12.post2.dev214+gb5e03ed19` |
| transformers | `5.12.1` |

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Which Transformers version was used for the reported validation? This image lists 5.12.1, while current main pins 5.16.1. Could we align the published image and docs with the repo pin and rerun the AITER checks on that version?

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Bumped to 5.16.1 and re-measured the default configs on 8×MI308X. Wan: loss |Δ| = 0, 1.25×. Qwen3-Omni: max |Δ| = 0.02, 1.04×. Both are consistent with the earlier run.

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aiter's varlen forward honours `logits_soft_cap` through a dedicated CK kernel,
but its backward has no softcap at all: `_flash_attn_varlen_backward` takes no
such argument, `ctx` never stores one, and the backward kernels carry no
`_logits` variant while the forward ones do. Gradients are therefore computed as
if the cap were absent, silently losing the `1 - tanh**2(s / cap)` factor. The
shim mapped `softcap` straight onto `logits_soft_cap`, and varlen is the path
VeOmni takes for packed sequences, so a model with attention logit softcapping
would have trained on wrong gradients.

Measured on gfx942 against an eager reference implementing the same maths, with
a softcap-disabled control to establish the noise floor and a per-cap activity
check so a cap too large to bite cannot produce a vacuous pass:

    softcap   cap active   forward err   gradient err
      0.0        0.0000       0.0156        0.0195      <- control
      2.0        0.9102       0.0156        4.6021
      0.5        1.5449       0.0156       14.4375
      0.125      2.0078       0.0156       18.7656

The forward tracks the reference at every cap while the gradient error grows
monotonically with how hard the cap bites, which is the signature of a backward
that ignores it.

Refuse the cap when `torch.is_grad_enabled()` and keep allowing it otherwise:
the forward is correct, so inference is unaffected and there is no reason to
take that away. Note that under reentrant gradient checkpointing the first
forward runs with grad disabled, so the failure surfaces during recompute rather
than at the first forward; it is still loud, and `enable_reentrant` defaults to
False.

Also stop the sink rejection from recommending `flash_attention_2`. flash-attn
2.8.3 has no sink argument either and drops sinks without raising, so that
fallback would trade a clear failure for silently different attention. It now
points at `eager` and says why FA2 is not a substitute.

Documents the window-width and softcap rejections in the ROCm known-limitations
list and in the kernel-selection reference, and adds aiter to the adapter doc's
`_lazy_imports` examples.

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Heads-up on ordering: #1142 ([BREAKING][ops, model] refactor: replace OpSlot with VeomniOp) is planned to land before this PR, so please rebase onto main after it merges and build the kernel changes here on the new op registry.

What changes in #1142:

  • OpSlot / OpsConfigSlot / KERNEL_REGISTRY / KernelSpec (veomni.ops.dispatch, veomni.ops.kernel_registry) are removed.
  • Every kernel is a row registered with register_op(op, variant, impl, ..., requirement=..., requires=(...)), keyed by (op, variant, impl, device). The device is chosen with GpuKernelRequirement / NpuKernelRequirement / MluKernelRequirement.
  • Modeling code holds a handle: VeomniOp(op, variant, resolve_op_impl("<field>_implementation")). It does not read config fields or bind slots.
  • Kernels live under veomni/ops/kernels/<op>/<variant>/<impl>.py, with the rows in veomni/ops/kernels/<op>/__init__.py. Many files moved.

How to register and call an op: veomni/ops/README.md → Registering an op and Calling an op from modeling; config fields and available impls: docs/design/op_selection.md.

For this PR specifically:

  • veomni/ops/kernels/attention/flash.py is now attention/standard/flash.py. Attention backends are rows of the attention op, registered in veomni/ops/kernels/attention/__init__.py.
  • Please add veomni_flash_attention_aiter there as its own row with a ROCm-only GpuKernelRequirement, instead of extending the old flash dispatcher.
  • The attention contract tests moved to tests/ops/attention/.

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Heads-up on ordering: #1142 ([BREAKING][ops, model] refactor: replace OpSlot with VeomniOp) is planned to land before this PR, so please rebase onto main after it merges and build the kernel changes here on the new op registry.

What changes in #1142:

  • OpSlot / OpsConfigSlot / KERNEL_REGISTRY / KernelSpec (veomni.ops.dispatch, veomni.ops.kernel_registry) are removed.
  • Every kernel is a row registered with register_op(op, variant, impl, ..., requirement=..., requires=(...)), keyed by (op, variant, impl, device). The device is chosen with GpuKernelRequirement / NpuKernelRequirement / MluKernelRequirement.
  • Modeling code holds a handle: VeomniOp(op, variant, resolve_op_impl("<field>_implementation")). It does not read config fields or bind slots.
  • Kernels live under veomni/ops/kernels/<op>/<variant>/<impl>.py, with the rows in veomni/ops/kernels/<op>/__init__.py. Many files moved.

How to register and call an op: veomni/ops/README.md → Registering an op and Calling an op from modeling; config fields and available impls: docs/design/op_selection.md.

For this PR specifically:

  • veomni/ops/kernels/attention/flash.py is now attention/standard/flash.py. Attention backends are rows of the attention op, registered in veomni/ops/kernels/attention/__init__.py.
  • Please add veomni_flash_attention_aiter there as its own row with a ROCm-only GpuKernelRequirement, instead of extending the old flash dispatcher.
  • The attention contract tests moved to tests/ops/attention/.

Rebased onto post-#1142 main in 9629320. AITER is now registered as its own attention/standard row (veomni_flash_attention_aiter) with GpuKernelRequirement(platforms=(ROCM_GPU,)) and requires=("aiter",). The adapter and tests were moved to the new attention layout. Verified with the attention/arguments/model suites and real gfx942 dense + varlen forward/backward.

Comment thread veomni/ops/kernels/attention/__init__.py
Register AITER as a ROCm-only VeomniOp attention row, adapt its FMHA-v3
API to the Transformers flash interface, and preserve Ulysses/varlen
routing for transformer and Wan models.

Reject AITER on Ascend before HF preloading, where Transformers would
otherwise select its NPU path and silently lose sliding-window semantics.
Document and test the backend contract, limitations, and measured parity.

Co-authored-by: Cursor <cursoragent@cursor.com>
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