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See https://discuss.python.org/t/interactions-with-never-leading-to-undesirable-assignability/99445/25

I feel this is a straightforward oversight so I don't think this needs to go through the full approval process.

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Looks good to me.

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The exceptions are ``object`` and ``Never``. The union ``object | Any`` is equivalent to
``object``, because ``object`` is a type containing all values and therefore the ``Any``
cannot add any values. Similarly, ``Never | Any`` is equivalent to ``Any``, because
``Never`` is a type containing no values, so that including it in a union cannot add any
values to the type.
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There is another exception explained in the paragraph below (for equivalent gradual types). To be honest, I'm not sure if it really helps with clarity to add more exceptions here. It feels to me like the original intent of this paragraph was maybe just to explain that T | Any is not generally reducible to a simpler form (Any)?

Also, the existing sentence "It represents an unknown static type with lower bound T" is only true if T is fully-static.

Maybe both of these problems could be solved by going with something like:

This rule applies only to subtypes, not assignable-to. The union T | Any is not generally reducible to a simpler form. For example, int | Any represents an unknown static type with lower bound int. That is, it represents an unknown set of objects which may be as large as object, or as small as int, but no smaller.

Equivalent gradual types can, however, be simplified from unions […]

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cannot add any values. Similarly, ``Never | Any`` is equivalent to ``Any``, because
``Never`` is a type containing no values, so that including it in a union cannot add any
values to the type.
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Never | Any ≅ Any can be generalized into Never | T ≅ T (for all types T), but I'm not sure if that axiom is already in the spec.

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