Prevent NTSC/PAL NES from loading games that need the Expansion port #14265
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This change prevents loading all variants of Family Basic carts on non-Japanese hardware. Since the systems lack the expansion hardware to use the keyboard (and consequentially, the audio port for the tape deck), this renders them unusable and causes the same issues that were mentioned in 8443.
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I'm okay with the principle. However does this also means that anything with an |
... hold on a sec. I just noticed Stadium Events (US/PAL) has no |
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Stadium Events uses Power Pad that plugs into controller port, not the
Family Trainer controller that plugs into the expansion port
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I'm okay with the principle. However does this also means that *anything*
with an exp_default should be filtered out, which means all the Family
Trainer games as well? If true I suggest to rename the compatibility filter
as exp instead of fbasic.
... hold on a sec. I just noticed Stadium Events (US/PAL) has no
exp_default, I don't think the game is even playable without the Power
Pad. Is this by design?
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Yeah, and I assumed If this isn't used for non-JP systems, then okay. I had no idea. I'll make the suggested changes later today and submit them after testing. |
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This change prevents loading all variants of Family Basic carts and Family Trainer games on non-Japanese hardware. Since stock systems lack the expansion port to use the keyboard (and consequentially, the audio port for the tape deck), and the Family Trainer pad uses a different interface compared to the US / PAL releases, this renders them unusable. It also causes the same issues that were mentioned in MAMETesters bug 8443 with the Family Basic games.
Also added Family Trainer support to Family Trainer 6 and 10 via the software list.