ftell() not consistent in between Linux/Unix and Windows when file is opened in mode "t" by damorinCan · Pull Request #8360 · cppcheck-opensource/cppcheck

damorinCan · 2026-03-21T16:45:33Z

Some legacy tools stopped suddenly working after 20+ years.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/79762122/ftell-no-more-returning-the-correct-offset-on-a-text-file-with-windows-11-ente

Trac ticket: https://trac.cppcheck.net/ticket/14743#ticket

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/79762122/ftell-no-more-returning-the-correct-offset-on-a-text-file-with-windows-11-ente

chrchr-github · 2026-03-21T18:29:28Z

Thanks for your contribution.
As far as I can tell, this has nothing to do with Windows 11, but rather the C11 spec of ftell(), right? So the title of the PR should be adjusted.
Please add a test.

damorinCan · 2026-03-21T21:42:01Z

So the title of the PR should be adjusted.

Title now including reference to C11 and removed reference to Windows 11.

Please add a test.

I added a test in test/testio.cpp. Anything missing in it ?

chrchr-github · 2026-03-21T21:48:12Z

Please add a test.

I added a test in test/testio.cpp. Anything missing in it ?

Thanks, I must have missed that.

chrchr-github · 2026-03-24T08:08:23Z

Ping @danmar

danmar

I feel we need to have a ticket for this in trac

it feels like it should be added to the release notes as a "new check" ?

danmar · 2026-04-09T12:04:48Z

                case Filepointer::Operation::UNIMPORTANT:
                    if (f.mode == OpenMode::CLOSED)
                        useClosedFileError(tok);
+                    if (isftell && windows && f.read_mode == Filepointer::ReadMode::READ_TEXT && printPortability)


the error message says something about the C11 standard. Nothing about windows.

I will add a comment about this reference to this Microsoft page:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/c-runtime-library/reference/ftell-ftelli64?view=msvc-170

An update for the error message with this, would it be OK ?

According to Microsoft, the value returned by ftell may not reflect the physical byte offset for streams opened in text mode, because text mode causes carriage return-line feed translation. See also 7.21.9.4 in C11 standard.".

I will remove the reference to _wfopen(), it's not part of the C++ standard.

Sorry.. my confusion was because you wrote && windows &&.

Now that I understand the issue better I think it's better to be clear that it's a standard problem.

danmar · 2026-04-13T10:56:59Z

I have tried to add some descriptions about some of our checkers here:
https://github.com/danmar/cppcheck/tree/main/man/checkers

Ideally that would contain descriptions for all our checkers but due to lack-of-resources it does not.

If you can add a corresponding file for this checking that would be great.

- Fix the uncrustify check (removed https reference to Microsoft). New changes: - Added missing string related to new check - Added checker description for ftellTextModeFile - Updated copyright.

sonarqubecloud · 2026-04-18T16:33:26Z

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danmar · 2026-04-24T20:15:31Z

We need a ticket in trac for this.

Can you please tell me what you think the summary and description should be and we can create it..

danmar · 2026-04-24T20:23:14Z

@@ -0,0 +1,52 @@
+# ftellModeTextFile 
+
+**Message**: According to Microsoft, the value returned by ftell may not reflect the physical byte offset for streams opened in text mode, because text mode causes carriage return-line feed translation. See also 7.21.9.4 in C11 standard.<br/>


It's not according to Microsoft. It's according to the C standard.

Sorry I was confused before.

I think it would make sense to quote the text from the C standard in the description in this document and highlight the part that says its file position indicator contains unspecified information.

The ftell function obtains the current value of the file position indicator for the stream
pointed to by stream. For a binary stream, the value is the number of characters from
the beginning of the file. For a text stream, its file position indicator contains unspecified
information, ...

danmar · 2026-04-24T20:44:17Z

 /* -*- C++ -*-
 * Cppcheck - A tool for static C/C++ code analysis
- * Copyright (C) 2007-2025 Cppcheck team.
+ * Copyright (C) 2007-2026 Cppcheck team.


this diff is not needed. we don't tweak it manually.

danmar · 2026-04-24T21:51:43Z

+              "     if (f)\n"
+              "     {\n"
+              "         fseek(f, 0, SEEK_END);\n"
+              "         (void)ftell(f);\n"


I would think a warning here is a false positive. We can clearly see that nothing unexpected happens. The program will do what the developer expects. An assignment of an unknown or global variable pos = ftell(f); would make it more dangerous.

danmar · 2026-04-24T21:58:39Z

+     if (f)
+     {
+        fseek(f, 0, SEEK_END);
+        printf( "Offset %d\n", ftell(f);


Could we make the example code more "buggy"? If the program writes the offset for debugging purposes this output might be 100% fine. If the program writes "File size: %d\n" instead it would be a bit more clear it's a bug imho. If you have better suggestions to make it more "buggy" feel free to do it..

damorinCan · 2026-05-02T17:38:04Z

We need a ticket in trac for this.

Can you please tell me what you think the summary and description should be and we can create it..

Thanks, I lost my login/password (last time was years ago). What about this:

[ftell() is no more returning the correct offset on a text file with Windows 11 compared to Linux.

danmar · 2026-05-02T20:14:01Z

Thanks, I lost my login/password (last time was years ago). What about this:

do you remember your username? If you send me a new htpasswd hash via email I can update..

danmar · 2026-05-11T09:33:26Z

The PR title should be something like:

Fix #14743 (ftell() not consistent in C11)

I would like that the PR title and ticket title are consistent. and well imho the fundamental issue is not that linux/windows does not have the same behavior. the fundamental issue is that the behavior is implementation defined. it's possible you can have different behavior when using the same compiler but different volume type, compiler flags, etc..

damorinCan · 2026-05-11T22:16:00Z

Hi, I tried to edit the ticket title but it's not possible so I made the PR title the same as the ticket. Robert Le lun. 11 mai 2026 à 05:33, Daniel Marjamäki ***@***.***> a écrit :

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ftell() have a different behavior in Windows 11 than before.

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/79762122/ftell-no-more-returning-the-correct-offset-on-a-text-file-with-windows-11-ente

damorinCan changed the title ~~ftell() have a different behavior in Windows 11 than before.~~ ftell() not consistent in C11 Mar 21, 2026

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- Fix the uncrustify check (removed https reference to Microsoft). New changes: - Added missing string related to new check - Added checker description for ftellTextModeFile - Updated copyright.

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damorinCan changed the title ~~ftell() not consistent in C11~~ ftell() not consistent in between Linux/Unix and Windows when file is opened in mode "t" May 11, 2026

		@@ -0,0 +1,52 @@
		# ftellModeTextFile

		Message: According to Microsoft, the value returned by ftell may not reflect the physical byte offset for streams opened in text mode, because text mode causes carriage return-line feed translation. See also 7.21.9.4 in C11 standard.<br/>

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