Yabridge doesn't work in Kubuntu 24.10 in Ardour, Bitwig Studio and Presonus Studio One #377

Skygge666 · 2024-10-20T22:14:20Z

Thanks for giving yabridge a shot!

I read through both the troubleshooting and the known issues sections, and my issue wasn't listed there

Problem description

In the new (K)ubuntu 24.10 (Oracular oriole) all plugins I have (MTPower Drumkit, EZDrummer 3) cause these DAWs to crash: Ardour, Bitwig Studio and Studio One. Before system upgrade, under 24.04 everything was fine. Now If I add one of these plugins or try to rescan plugins, these DAWs take whole RAM (32G in my case) then crash. What's strange, under Reaper or Tracktion Waveform the plugins are working ok. Idk what happened. I waited for new wine release and proper Oracular repo, what happened today, but it changed nothing. Attached screenshot from Studio One but it looks the same for Ardour and Bitwig Studio.

What did you expect to happen?

I expected to load and run the plugins

What actually happened?

Ardour, Bitwig and Studio One start to consume all RAM available then crash.

Operating system

Kubuntu 24.10 (Oracular oriole)

How did you install yabridge?

binary from releases page

yabridge version

5.1.0

yabridgectl version

5.1.0

Wine version

winehq-staging 9.20~oracular-1

Plugin

MT Power Drumkit, EZDrummer 3 (demo)

Plugin type

VST3

Plugin architecture

64-bit

Host

Bitwig Studio, Ardour 8.10, Presonus Studio One 6.6

Desktop environment or WM

KDE Plasma 6.1 (Wayland)

GPU model

NVidia RTX 3060

GPU drivers and kernel

Nvidia drivers 555, Kernel 6.11-lowlatency

Debug log

No response

Anything else?

No response

vudone · 2024-10-21T07:29:41Z

Same problem here, in ubuntu 24.10.

I have just updated last night.. The wine-hq repositories (for oracular, the name of ubuntu24.10) installs winehq-9.20. I tried to downgrade winehq but it does not repair the problem.

In my case when i launch Ardour (with any yabridge plugin) it keep freezie. If i launch a new ardour project, ir works fine. In any moment I load a yabridge plugin, Ardour freezie.

I tried Ardour 8.6 and ardour 8.10, same issue

vudone · 2024-10-21T08:18:19Z

I tried to debug the code with gdb. This is whats gdb shows when the software keep Freezie. Seems like is the moment when i load Melodyne with yabridge. I dont know if this screenshots are usefull.

vudone · 2024-10-23T18:00:18Z

The yabridge binary release didnt work in my ubuntu 24.10. I have compiled it in my computer (with winehq-9.20) and now seems to work

Skygge666 · 2024-10-23T18:33:03Z

Self-compiled Yabridge seems to work. Thanks @vudone for your tip.

mahlonsmith · 2024-10-23T19:03:47Z

Also just updated to Ubuntu 24.10, with the same problem under Ardour.

Another interesting note: Everything seemed fine using Carla as the plugin host. Memory bloat and scanning timeouts in Ardour.

Building yabridge from source, all good in both environments.

paulopinheiro · 2024-10-23T23:43:56Z

I confirm the bug in Ubuntu 24.10. The problem does not occur on Carla, Reaper, Muse, Waveform13 or even Audacity. It happens with Ardour and Mixbus.
When you try to load the plugin, Yabridge isn't even called. Ardour is probably in a loop trying to load somehow, which increases memory and CPU use.
That also happens when you try to scan the plugin as a new one to add to the Ardour cache list.
But there's one more piece of information about it: if you try to scan the same plugin in the command line with ardour-vst-scanner it adds to the Ardour cache with no issues. So maybe it's something about the shell environment?

paulopinheiro · 2024-10-24T01:55:36Z

Unfortunately, I was unable to compile yabridge from source. The process ends without errors, but at the end I don't have all the expected generated files (there is no yabridgectl, for example).

vudone · 2024-10-24T06:51:57Z

Hi @paulopinheiro. Im not in home now, but i think that yabridge works for u. Yesterday when I compiled yabridge i had to compile 2 packages really.

In the root folder, with meson and ninja, u compile some files. thats ok, its part of the project.

In order to compile the yabridgectl bin u need to access to the YABDRIGEFOLDER/tools/yabridgectl folder.

and there launch:

$ cargo run --release

yabdrigectl will be compiled. Copy it with the rest of yabridge files (probably ~/.local/share/yabridge)

And thats all.

eugenialoli · 2024-10-24T10:34:40Z

I hope the developer provides us with a new ubuntu binary package soon. There isn't one for the latest released version and compiling it from source is a big complicated on my system.

Skygge666 · 2024-10-24T10:57:01Z

As a temporary workaround you can download from my homepage working Yabridge for 24.10 (64-bit only!) compiled by me. I will remove this link as soon as developer makes new release.

I removed the download link since version 5.1.1 (and hopefully all newer) seems to work fine.

Skygge666 · 2024-10-24T12:05:25Z

List of files included:


libyabridge-chainloader-clap.so
libyabridge-chainloader-vst2.so
libyabridge-chainloader-vst3.so
libyabridge-clap.so
libyabridge-vst2.so
libyabridge-vst3.so
README.md
yabridgectl
yabridge-host.exe
yabridge-host.exe.so

You can install this the same way as usual binary release. If you have installed yabridge already - just replace these files and run
yabridgectl sync

paulopinheiro · 2024-10-24T12:18:56Z

Hi @paulopinheiro. Im not in home now, but i think that yabridge works for u. Yesterday when I compiled yabridge i had to compile 2 packages really.

In the root folder, with meson and ninja, u compile some files. thats ok, its part of the project.

In order to compile the yabridgectl bin u need to access to the YABDRIGEFOLDER/tools/yabridgectl folder.

and there launch:

$ cargo run --release

yabdrigectl will be compiled. Copy it with the rest of yabridge files (probably ~/.local/share/yabridge)

And thats all.

Thank you very much. That's the missing part. I didn't find those steps on README.
I'll still have to compile the 32 bits modules but the 64 bits based plugins are already working.

gitterdude · 2024-10-30T14:50:40Z

Skygge's version isn't compiled against libdl, librt and libpthreads. Maybe that's why it works.

ldd .local/share/yabridge-skygge/libyabridge-vst3.so  :
	linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007874de582000)
	libstdc++.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007874de000000)
	libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007874de2db000)
	libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007874de2ad000)
	libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007874ddc00000)
	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007874de584000)

ldd .local/share/yabridge-org/libyabridge-vst3.so :
	linux-vdso.so.1 (0x000070317c53b000)
	libstdc++.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x000070317c000000)
	libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x000070317c28c000)
	libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x000070317bfd2000)
	libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x000070317bc00000)
	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x000070317c53d000)
	libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x000070317c37e000)
	librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x000070317c379000)
	libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x000070317c285000)

erroreyes · 2024-11-11T04:39:46Z

List of files included:
libyabridge-chainloader-clap.so
libyabridge-chainloader-vst2.so
libyabridge-chainloader-vst3.so
libyabridge-clap.so
libyabridge-vst2.so
libyabridge-vst3.so
README.md
yabridgectl
yabridge-host.exe
yabridge-host.exe.so
You can install this the same way as usual binary release. If you have installed yabridge already - just replace these files and run yabridgectl sync

I love you!

PS, Renoise is also another DAW where plugins work without any issues after an update to 24.10, even when adding new VST2 and VST3 plugins.

erroreyes · 2024-11-11T18:21:25Z

I built yabridge on my laptop, including the 32-bit host, updated all my plugins, and everything seems to be working fine.

yabridge-error.eyes.zip

duncte123 · 2024-11-12T17:22:27Z

Tried the builds of both @erroreyes and @Skygge666, neither worked on my system for Auto-Tune pro (please don't suggest alternatives, they do not function in the same way I misuse the plugin)

Wine: wine-9.21 (Staging)
Daw: Bitwig Studio producer 5.2.5
OS: Kubuntu 24.04.1 LTS x86_64

Bitwig logs:
engine.log
BitwigStudio.log

robbert-vdh · 2024-11-12T19:14:14Z

When you try to load the plugin, Yabridge isn't even called. Ardour is probably in a loop trying to load somehow, which increases memory and CPU use.

@paulopinheiro Could you check if that's what's happening? Since the yabridge host application seems to be launching just fine, can you run Ardour from the command line with YABRIDGE_DEBUG_FILE=/tmp/yabridge.log set and then check in /tmp/yabridge.log to see if the host is starting multiple times? Also, does this only happen with the Ardour binaries from ardour.org or also with Ardour 8.6 installed through Ubuntu's repos?

robbert-vdh · 2024-11-12T20:16:37Z

The problem is likely indeed the line from the backtrace. Weirdly enough there's no problem if you run Ardour's plugin scanner standalone. But when run from Ardour, the posix_spawn_file_actions_addclose() calls seem to somehow be both a lot slower then usual, and they somehow leak memory. The reason why a version compiled on Ubuntu 24.10 (or anything else that has glibc 2.34 or newer, like Ubuntu 22.04) is that when yabridge is compiled on one of those distros, it uses a more efficient way to close file descriptors:

yabridge/src/common/process.cpp

Lines 352 to 364 in d928675

    
           // NOTE: If the Wine process outlives the host, then it may cause issues if 
        
           //       our process is still keeping the host's file descriptors alive 
        
           //       that. This can prevent Ardour from restarting after an unexpected 
        
           //       shutdown. Because of this we won't use `vfork()`, but instead we'll 
        
           //       just manually close all non-STDIO file descriptors. 
        
           #if (__GLIBC__ > 2) || (__GLIBC__ == 2 && __GLIBC_MINOR__ >= 34) 
        
               posix_spawn_file_actions_addclosefrom_np(&actions, STDERR_FILENO + 1); 
        
           #else 
        
               const int max_fds = static_cast<int>(sysconf(_SC_OPEN_MAX)); 
        
               for (int fd = STDERR_FILENO + 1; fd < max_fds; fd++) { 
        
                   posix_spawn_file_actions_addclose(&actions, fd); 
        
               } 
        
           #endif

I don't know what's changed in Ubuntu 24.10 that's causing posix_spawn_file_actions_addclose() to leak memory in the way it does, but the workaround for this would be to move the check if posix_spawn_file_actions_addclosefrom_np() is available at runtime and use that if it is. I'll try to find some time to work on that soon.

Skygge666 · 2024-11-14T23:12:16Z

Hi, the 5.1.1 seems to be fixed. Thanks!

erroreyes · 2024-11-14T23:24:28Z

Note that I did first encounter this issue with 5.11 in Bitwig.

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Skygge666 · 2024-11-14T23:36:07Z

5.1.1 works for me also in Bitwig.
5.1.1 was released last week. Maybe you mean 5.1.0?

erroreyes · 2024-11-15T01:06:33Z

Not for me. My timeline is that I had 5.1.0 installed on Kubuntu 24.04. I installed 5.1.1 and it worked. I then upgraded to Kubuntu 24.10 and my Windows plugins stopped working on Bitwig. I downgraded to 5.1.0 and still did not work. I built the latest on my laptop under Kubuntu 24.10 and that worked.

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gitterdude · 2024-11-15T07:37:00Z

5.1.1 still doesn't work here in Ardour on Xubuntu 24.10.
Neither the official release nor the one I compiled myself in Ubuntu 20.04

The self-compiled version from Ubuntu 24.04 works, as 5.1.0 also did.

paulopinheiro · 2024-11-15T17:01:18Z

I built yabridge on my laptop, including the 32-bit host, updated all my plugins, and everything seems to be working fine.

yabridge-error.eyes.zip

This one works for me on UbuntuStudio 24.10
Thank you very much.

To work around the issue from #377.

robbert-vdh · 2024-11-27T22:43:08Z

Could anyone here try the a master branch build? This now does runtime feature detection for the thing I mentioned above, this should mean that yabridge build on Ubuntu 20.04 (e.g. the builds here on GitHub) should now work again with Ardour on Ubuntu 24.10. Why this is even an issue I still don't know. I feel like this has to be some obscure issue with glibc or another part of the OS.

Also keep in mind that apparently Wine 9.22 also changed something to broke GUI interaction. This build will not yet fix that issue.

https://github.com/robbert-vdh/yabridge?tab=readme-ov-file#installing-a-development-build

Skygge666 · 2024-11-27T23:20:13Z

It works for me, thanks a lot! (Of course under wine-staging max 9.21, 9.22 is broken.)

gitterdude · 2024-11-28T07:59:03Z

Works here as well.
I compiled it with gcc-11 on Ubuntu 20.04, transferred the binaries to 24.10 and the VST plugins load in Ardour there.

duncte123 · 2024-12-01T14:59:25Z

I can confirm that most of my plugins work fine again with this version

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