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From: Patrick Austin <patrick.austin@stfc.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 16:13:31 +0100
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+title: ICAT Collaboration Meeting - 28th September 2023
+date: 2023-09-28
+chair: Andy
+scribe: Patrick
+---
+
+## Attendance
+Attendees:
+- Patrick
+- Andy
+- Rolf
+- Louise
+- Viktor
+- Kirsty
+- Alan
+- Alex
+- Allan
+
+Apologies:
+
+
+## Site Updates
+
+### ESRF:
+- Working on the MX use cases
+  - Deployed for some months, with ongoing testing
+  - Contact friendly users next week
+  - In a better position that ispyb
+  - Room for improvement, possibility to add features beyond ispyb
+  - Rolf: Our MX group does not have ispyb, plans to use it, would be nice to use the ESRF methods out of the box
+    - Private meeting to discuss? Will need to contact the group
+  - ispyb meeting at the end of November
+  - Performance was a worry but actually is not bad
+- Issues with downloading files of ~2GB via HTTP?
+  - DLS have had people attempting ~TB, but expect these to fail
+  - Rolf has had issues, but it was the clientside network (i.e. failed at home, succeeded at office)
+    - Alex also has these difficulties from home
+  - ESRF IT thinks it could be IDS config - could be a limit?
+  - Louise to test on an ISIS file as that's 1 level storage
+  - ESRF have GLOBUS, but majority of open data is not visible on GLOBUS via file permissions so is not suitable
+
+### HZB:
+- ICAT still offline, unknown when it will come up
+- Internal Gitlab is back online
+- Lots of upcoming project meetings
+- ICAT components pending release will probably not be until November
+  - DLS using ICAT6 but are and can continue to use SNAPSHOTs
+
+### ALBA:
+No attendees
+
+### Sirius:
+- Tried data ingest
+- Sample tracking meeting: perhaps try another week
+  - Want ESRF to participate but Alex isn't available, clashes with ICALEPCS
+  - Going to send another poll
+
+### ISIS:
+No news
+
+### DLS:
+Still concerns about performance in the DB from Payara6 change
+- Request duplication fix in DG
+- Update Oracle drivers to auto
+
+## Component Updates
+
+### icat.server
+
+### ids.server
+
+### authn.oidc & icat.oaipmh
+
+### DataGateway
+
+### icat-doi-api
+
+### DataHub
+
+## ICALEPCS Paper
+No contact from ALBA, SESAME - will have to remove them from authorship if they can't be reached
+
+Deadline Monday evening?
+
+### Architecture:
+- Need to address comments from Rolf: Patrick
+- Need to update final diagram: Patrick
+- Check for missing citatons: Patrick
+
+### Frontends:
+- DataGateway content needed: Louise
+- DataHub content needed: Alex
+
+### Extensions/APIs:
+- datagateway/common search api - add reference to this section (non accademic is fine, we can use the webpage): Viktor
+- Python icat: Rolf
+- ICAT+: Alex?
+- ICAT OAIPMH: Rolf
+- Sample tracking: Alex
+
+### Science use cases:
+- Cryo-EM needs content: Alex
+- MX needs content (50-100 parameters should be focus of use case): Alex
+
+### Sites:
+- ISIS needs content: Louise
+- ESRF needs figures: Andy
+- HZB needs content: Rolf
+- ALBA: ?
+- SESAME: ?
+- SIRIUS: Allan
+
+### Collaboration:
+- indico site from previous workshop: ROlf
+
+### Next steps:
+- Expand on containerisation: Rolf?
+
+### Conclusion
+- Needs expanding
+
+## AOB
+
+### E-logbooks meeting
+- Meeting went well, but need to define next steps soon
+- General idea is that the e-logbook will be treated as another ICAT component (in time)
+- MongDB has a problematic license... Rolf suspects the e-logbook use case is not compliant with the license
+  - Derived from GPL, but if you derive from MongoDB you have to use their license
+  - CoachDB as an alternative
+  - Consensus seems to be that this is not apply to us as we will not be offering MongoDB functionality, we are just using it as a DB which is allowed
+- Test of model federation in DataGateway:
+  - Could do this
+  - Not planning on anytime soon
+  - Would be nice to know if different versions of React can work together in practice
+
+
+### Other meetings
+
+### Next Collaboration Meeting
+Clashes with International Data Week