Any documentation for S3, OpenID, remote DB connections?

[keithkhl]

I have tried to set up custom options for

• S3 storage
• Open ID (for Office365)
• Remote DB (external Postgres)

But I can't find relevant information, and it does not seem Greenlight website supports that configuration.
I've tried with composer yaml, but everytime I change any variable, I either cannot access the greeenlight website anymore, or I get error msgs.

I've also tried to exclude Greenlight from docker installation, and tried with separate server, but it doesn't seem working neither.
I can try and fail any configuration in the web for learning, but certainly there should be documents available for this kind of basic customization.

[keithkhl]

I am using Min.IO for S3, so I added below values to .env, and generated compose.yml,

S3_ACCESS_KEY_ID=xxxx
S3_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY=yyyy
#S3_REGION=
S3_BUCKET=bbb
S3_ENDPOINT=https://example.com
S3_FORCE_PATH_STYLE=true

but, I cannot access the website anymore.

The setting directly comes from

• https://github.com/bigbluebutton/greenlight/blob/master/sample.env

[keithkhl]

So far, I can make it work only changing basic settings like number of breakout rooms.
Any changes to Greenlight related setting is basically a dead end.

I guess this docker image does not support Greenlight configurations.

[ffdixon]

These are good changes to make, but we don't have the relevant documentation to support it. We've been updating GreenLight over the years, but not for the scenario you described.

If it's helpful, you can reach out to the companies offering commercial support https://bigbluebutton.org/commercial-support/. There is some work involved in what you are doing, and if your from a commercial company, there may be an opportunity where you can engage one of the companies involved in GreenLight and they can earn some revenue to support your efforts.

[keithkhl]

@ffdixon Thank you for the answer. I actually didn't expect much.

Based on my experiencce with commercial supports for open sources, they kinda force me to stick to their own version. I have not had any deep discussion with the 6 of them in the list, but I am kinda skeptical about the path.

I also tried with separate installation of Greenlight to connect two BBB docker servers, remote postgres DB, and remote redis, along with Keycloak for OpenID, but I was not able to make it work. S3 config that I shared earlier, likely does not work as well.

It is kinda surprising to see that v3 of one of the most widely used services still lacks this type of basic customization support.

I migrate to Moodle/BBB from Teams due to lack of educational support and customization, but looks like my experience with BBB won't be that different.

Though I do appreciate BBB and the docker image supports, once competitors with way much easier installation is equipped with tools that only BBB is currently offering, I think it will be hard not to turn around.

[keithkhl]

wasted two more days with standalone coturn and fully integated cases, and I am giving up. In totla, I have wasted about two weeks.
Going for a standalone machine for BBB or hosting is the worse option than free tier MS Teams for Education / Google Workspace for Education, and even taking the cost into account, I don't think you can win against Zoom, if it is this much difficult to install on a pre-running web server.

Have had really frustrating experiences with a lot of open sources, but gotta tell you that this is the worst I have ever tried so far. It is surprising that people still go for it.

If I were you, I would rather spend more time on easier installation, less dependency, and more UI options. Wish you good luck.

[ffdixon]

These changes are feasible, but, as you’ve noticed, we haven’t yet developed the necessary documentation and scripts to implement them. Currently, the core team is focused on maintaining our primary products: BigBlueButton, GreenLight, ScaleLite, LTI 1.3, and Moodle integration.

BigBlueButton can be deployed in many different ways, and while we agree that documentation could be improved, community members can also reach out to companies offering commercial support. These companies are highly skilled in customizing BigBlueButton, with some customizations being entirely unique.

Additionally, the revenue generated by these companies contributes to the ongoing development of BigBlueButton, which has enabled the project to grow over the past sixteen years.

At present, none of these companies deploy BigBlueButton using Docker containers. While that may be a future possibility, for now, we recommend focusing on a bare-metal or bare-VM installation.

Overall, I would agree that we could do better. Thanks for your feedback.

[keithkhl]

Well... I feel I vent out too much. After days, well. weeks, of debuging, it was a bit too much.
I can see why I fail. It is because of the udp ports that I cannot find a way to properly load balance w/ my technical knowledge. Thx anyways. I have reached out to professional services. I hope to find a better answer than one public IP for each dedicated BBB server.