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MO2 crashes at different times during use (Using external tools [LOOT + SSEEdit] and installing + activating mods) #2173

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AceBurn90 opened this issue Dec 15, 2024 · 0 comments
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AceBurn90 commented Dec 15, 2024

The problem:

Since my last working modding build (Windows 10 in 2018), I have tried to mod Skyrim with MO2 again several times over several years on Windows 10 + 11. The MO2 window freezes when I for example install a mod or even just activate a mod by checking the box. If I kill the MO2 process and restart it, there is a chance that the mod has been apparently successfully installed/activated, but this is too uncertain for me, as I don't know whether all the required data has been successfully copied.

Someone already had the same issue like me at about the same time (2018) and is since then not fixed:
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/8ffz8k/pc_sse_mod_organizer_212_freezes_in_seconds_to/

To Reproduce:

I can also reproduce this error relatively quickly by installing, uninstalling, activating or deactivating a MOD.
I have tried several different MO2 versions and via installer and portable over the years.
All versions react in the same way -> the window freezes.

The problem does not always occur.
Sometimes it only occurs after a few mod activations.
It seems to occur more often with larger mods.
Explicitly with the “Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch - USSEP” the problem occurs after every activation. -> https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266

  1. Download the mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266
  2. Install the mod
  3. Activate the mod
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  4. Now it freeze and never recovers
  5. Restart MO2
  6. Check if plugins or installed mods are active (sometimes the or not)
  7. Check Installed mod ordne (sometimes they are order alphabetically and not)
  8. Check my created spaces (sometimes the change like the mod order in 8.)
  9. Cry in shower for redo all this (ノಥ,_」ಥ)ノ彡┻━┻

Here you can see what I have to deal with in order to be able to mod Skyrim at all.
With small modlists it's manageable at some point, but if you want to install several hundred mods, the managing time increases exponentially.
YouTube-Video

Environment:

Last Mod Organizer Version that did not exhibit the issue: Unknown -> Some official release version in 2018 (no alpha or beta)
MO2 Version (portable): 2.5.2 Revision: 9c130cb, usvfs: 0.5.6.1 -> Managinf Skyrim Special Edition

My system:

OS: Windows 11 23H2 (Build: 22631.4460)
nVidia driver: 566.36 (latest driver)

Drivers:
I have installed the latest drivers several times since 2019, most recently today.
Latest installed drivers: Chipset, Audio, Bluetooth, WiFi driver + both network drivers
BIOS: E7C35AMS-> Updated it today -> still freezes)
Motherboard: MEG X570 ACE
CPU: Ryzen 7 5700X (No OC) (Also didn't worked on a Ryzen 9 3900X)
GPU: ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition (No dedicated OC) (also didn't work on 1080TI)
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Royal silver DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-3600, CL16-16-16-36 (F4-3600C16D-32GTRS)
SSD NVMe: AORUS NVMe Gen4 SSD 2TB (GP-ASM2NE6200TTTD) -> Steam + MO2 + Skyrim
Software: MSI Afterburner and Riva Statistic Server has been uninstalled -> Still Freezes

Details / additional mentions:

EzioTheDeadPoet mentioned a sollution found on reddit: #1743 (comment)
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/lkg82q/comment/gpkpd58/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
After I had disconnected my nVidia Shield TV and my Server Nas SMB networkshares MO2 has not freezed since when I launch SSEdit or LOOT.

USVFS:

https://gist.github.com/AceBurn90/ff4f7b952796fd86bd1fe77817274936

MO Interface:

https://gist.github.com/AceBurn90/bad89f9abafdc3a577515a0e3ffd15ee

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