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HSC simulations notes from 20/05/2021 #51

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andrevitorelli opened this issue May 21, 2021 · 0 comments
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HSC simulations notes from 20/05/2021 #51

andrevitorelli opened this issue May 21, 2021 · 0 comments

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  • degraded images fdrom HST
  • Problem: HSC is really good (seeing)
  • Very deep, deeper than HST, you have to add noise, and gets to the limit of what you can do.
  • using galsim
  • using hsc pipeline PSFs - real data - coadded as HSC does (using same transformations as coadded imgs)
  • steps: simple profiles, simple but using real gal images, testing how results vary with sim realism. If results dont change with some increased complexity then methods are robust.
  • (1+m)true + c = obs
  • every method will have m, c. tolerance on those depends on the accuracy you want in final results
    (...)
  • exclusion factor: only galaxies that are isolated (original) - ie. no blending.
  • third catalogue: some blends
  • discrepancy sims/real data: blending factor, shape distributions, etc.

Thomas:

  • what was the process for building COSMOS catalogue?

François:

  • Mandelbaum 2012
  • Leauthaud 2007
  • GOOD_ZPHOT_SOURCE=1 caused problems in selection, because it will prefer deblended objects

Axel:

  • When build the final sample, what happens in crowded fields with the detection?

François:

  • we force the detection on the correct position

Axel, François:

  • this was not a test of only shape measurements, but whole pipeline

Axel:

  • advantage of simulating stamps instead of the full image?

François:

  • you need to use cutouts

Axel:

  • did galaxies have 90deg rotations

François:

  • Yes

continuation:

François:

  • fields have different properties (noise, seeing, etc)
  • checks against different fields
  • check of representativeness: different distributions of resolution (size), cmodel s/n
  • for these checks to match degradation of images need to be correct

Andre:

  • how do you control for ground truth of ellips

François:

  • you dont
  • lots of galaxies needed, you can measure average ellipticities. get 90 deg rotations to be sure avg cancel out

Andre:

  • do you add anti-correlated noise when shearing the real image artificially?

François:

  • not need to, because degradation adds much more noise

Axel:

  • how do you apply shear on objects that are close.

François:

  • the main result is multiplicative bias; it is a function of S/N
  • additive bias depend on size and s/n
  • vcompare differences of m, a beween diferent simulations
  • greatest impact is the blends

Axel:

  • what explains that having a model is good enough?

François:

  • subdominant effect

Axel:

  • can we do objects that have more different redshifts (blending biases w redshift)

Axel:

  • when using real galaxies, we care only about shear not individual ellips.
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